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Unread 4th Nov 2014, 10:23 AM   #1
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I have excellent result on Bing, whether I am running in CPA or Clickbank.




I hope those proof are enough to thrash those talk that Bing traffic is dead and whatsoever.

Normally those people who say that are trying to strife competition or they simply don't know what they are doing.

Here are some optimization tips I hope you will find it useful in the days to come.
#1 Make sure you target the right location

Many people make the mistake of running international and see red in their campaigns.
That is when they rant about "poor" quality of traffic when others like me are smirking in the corner.

#2 Keep your quality score to at least 9-10

This will not only keep you CPC down, but also improve the frequency of the appearance of your ads.
Here is a brief summary what make up the quality score and how you can improve them.


#3 Get your research done

You will see in my advanced targeting option.
I literally focus on female, aged between 25-64 cause I know they have buying power.

On Monday to Friday, I set time when they will be at home from work cause the tendency of them stay fixated to my sales generating landing page with a credit card on hand are slimmer if they are working.

On weekends, I typically set it after 8am when they wake up to 12 midnight. This helps to reduce bot clicks or fraud clicks by your competitors. (Guess they need to be out on a beautiful Sunday too? )

I hope this helps.
If I am free, I will release more powerful tactics that will get people to flash their credit cards to your offer.

For now, there is no reason not to get started.
Help will only be offered for those who took effort to make it happen.

Else, you are free to continue ranting about some theory from some famous gurus you bought from some courses here or elsewhere.

Just don't bring it here. Thanks.
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Hey man awesome guide! I hope you write more about the subject.

I have started my Bing campaign today, but (as you remember from my thread) I use broad KW and got 0 Clicks. I will work on this tomorrow and despite bidding for more expensive KW I am sure I will get a better ROI.

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Thanks for the info, what do you use exact,broad or phase ??? do you bid the max? like Best position bid -? or first page Bid?
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Thanks for the info, what do you use exact,broad or phase ??? do you bid the max? like Best position bid -? or first page Bid?
Show me a screen shoot of your issue and I will help.

I do not entertain people who just want information and not doing anything about it.
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Hey man awesome guide! I hope you write more about the subject.

I have started my Bing campaign today, but (as you remember from my thread) I use broad KW and got 0 Clicks. I will work on this tomorrow and despite bidding for more expensive KW I am sure I will get a better ROI.

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Update me if a screenshoot so I can help.

I love people who take action.

Go for it!
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Just an update, I manage to get a CTR of over 40%

The rest are just double digits though.
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When you chose your KW, at firs you dont have any QS, so hoy do calculate the bid. For example if the average is USD1 will you bid higher, lower?
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a big thanks For you

do you use direct linking
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And also am using a lp am not geting any convertions
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I am having trouble findin godd KW. I dont have lots of impressions either. Would be great if anyone can share his method for finding them.
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LP. That is the only way to control your quality score and conversion.
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And also am using a lp am not geting any convertions
There is too little clicks to determine its conversion rate.

Try to run until it hits 50 clicks threshold before judging it.

Oh, if I were you, I will remove those quality score below 9. They are pretty useless to you and will only eat into your profit.
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I am having trouble findin godd KW. I dont have lots of impressions either. Would be great if anyone can share his method for finding them.
More often than not, it is not the keyword.

You can have the right keywords, but these factors will still determine whether you get your 1st conversion.

-Offer
-Ad Copy
-Duration

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When you chose your KW, at firs you dont have any QS, so hoy do calculate the bid. For example if the average is USD1 will you bid higher, lower?
I always bid as high as possible before bringing them down later.

There is 2 reasons why I did that.

1) To scare away potential competitors so they can't f*** me around.
2) To get impressions and clicks quickly.
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But what about your ROI? When bidding for a KW for the first time you dont know how will beits performance.

The CPC shows one number, but then there are several other numbers to take care of (Mainline 01, Mainline, Sidebar). Which one do you target?
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But what about your ROI? When bidding for a KW for the first time you dont know how will beits performance.

The CPC shows one number, but then there are several other numbers to take care of (Mainline 01, Mainline, Sidebar). Which one do you target?
I never go for sidebar.

My ROI avg around 200%.

Yes, that's why I do tracking to test all the keywords that offer gets.
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Thanks solarwarrior for this thread. You've laid out some great tips here. Awesome stuff!
I've been trying to learn more about Bing PPC and want to get going with my PPC campaigns there in desperate niche. My focus is to target exact KW and keep my bid rate at the minimum and get the best ROI. But I still am looking for a better way to find the right keyword other than google keyword tool. Can you please suggest the best way to zero in on a keyword to target my campaign for a particular affiliate site?
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Thanks solarwarrior for this thread. You've laid out some great tips here. Awesome stuff!
I've been trying to learn more about Bing PPC and want to get going with my PPC campaigns there in desperate niche. My focus is to target exact KW and keep my bid rate at the minimum and get the best ROI. But I still am looking for a better way to find the right keyword other than google keyword tool. Can you please suggest the best way to zero in on a keyword to target my campaign for a particular affiliate site?
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Try Keyword suggestion tool &mdash; Google suggest scraper &mdash; Übersuggest

The best way is to test.

Make sure the ad copy is relevant to the keywords you tested.

Many goes the lazy way of spamming 1000 keywords per ad copy and lose out lots of winning keywords.
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There is something that I am not figuring out: how is possible a KW to have 10,302 monthly searches, 1,429 impressions and 0 clicks?

By the way, today was my second click, 12USD . The bid was wronly configured...I have started to add set up only one Text ad per KW and only for KW wit h 1000+ searches. Lets see what happens tomorrow..
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There is something that I am not figuring out: how is possible a KW to have 10,302 monthly searches, 1,429 impressions and 0 clicks?

By the way, today was my second click, 12USD . The bid was wronly configured...I have started to add set up only one Text ad per KW and only for KW wit h 1000+ searches. Lets see what happens tomorrow..
Maybe you can send me a pm with a screenshoot of your campaign so I can figure out for you.

There is too many variables that can affect it.
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Great guide just adjusted my Bing campaigns lets see what happens.I only started 2 weeks ago on a small budget but have had 4 Clickbank sales.

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Nice work marcus!, are you direct linking or using a LP?
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Wow really impressive stuff SolarWarrior!

Quick question, do you send your bing traffic to your squeeze page or do you just send them straight to the products page via your affiliate link?

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Direct linking.Got a 9/10 score good keywords is the key.You just got to track everything for a bit and tweek it.

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Thanks for the highlighters. Seems like a great idea with the advance targeting.

Make sure to watch your budget. Bing Ads can really deliver the traffic for certain keywords. Had 1116 clicks in the last 72 hours for one campaign. (have yet to check the # of leads derived from that though - I'm sending these to a lead capture before an email marketing campaign). The keyword is targeted and niche related though I'm mostly concerned about the quality of content clicks - have been keeping mostly to search engine traffic so far which does well.

It's the first time trying this set of keywords. I'm afraid that this might be low quality clicks - they are content clicks. I'm also finding I get lower CPC and better CTR with Bing Ads than other platforms; easier to bid to with the lower competition.

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Hey guys! Quick question: do you prefer using the search network or the content network? Why?


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There is no certainty. Some offers like email submits or gaming offers perform well or better with content network than search network.

You need to test.

Asking for opinions without testing will only lead to mediocre results.

What works for you may not works for others.
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Awesome guide! how do you keep track of keywords for which was the sale?
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You definitely want to use tracking of some description, Prosper202 is free and whilst a little tricky to work out at first, works well.

There are a number of paid options like CPV Lab that are easier to get started with (you have to host prosper202 yourself).
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Guys, I want to share that after reading this thead, I manage to make 20 more sales with my cpa network today. Kudo to OP for giving pointers when I need it and I really appreciate it cause this is the 1st time I make sales online. This is much better than buying several wsoes out there. Thanks again and I hope all of you will get similar or better success right here.
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@solarwarrior:

A fantastic post, thanks!

I wonder, is it best to build a small niche-like website to get the best possible QS? The home page would be a pre-sell LP for the chosen offer, but to look more authentic, would it be a good idea to add a few articles as well?

The navigation would look something like Home | Articles | Contact | About Us and the footer would include a Privacy Policy and Terms of Service.

I'd appreciate your thoughts on this. Thank you.
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A fantastic post, thanks!

I wonder, is it best to build a small niche-like website to get the best possible QS? The home page would be a pre-sell LP for the chosen offer, but to look more authentic, would it be a good idea to add a few articles as well?

The navigation would look something like Home | Articles | Contact | About Us and the footer would include a Privacy Policy and Terms of Service.

I'd appreciate your thoughts on this. Thank you.
Yes, that will be ideal but try to keep those link out of way to maximize conversion. Probably, you want the best converting article on your homepage that lead to your offer.
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What you set Time zone in your company?

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Guys, I want to share that after reading this thead, I manage to make 20 more sales with my cpa network today. Kudo to OP for giving pointers when I need it and I really appreciate it cause this is the 1st time I make sales online. This is much better than buying several wsoes out there. Thanks again and I hope all of you will get similar or better success right here.
What is your ROI?
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What you set Time zone in your company?

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I dont see any issue with setting in your timezone.
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Solarwarrior gives awesome advice. He gave me great tips and tricks to lead me into the right direction to getting my landing page to convert.
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It is waiting for your release more powerful tactics !!!!
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The product I'm running on Bing is a cookbook from ClickBank. I'm using the keywords and bids suggested by Bing. As you can see, the CTR is high, but I'm paying way too much for the clicks (the product payout is about 35 USD).

Should I just lower the bids or what would be the right thing to do in this situation? Thanks.

Ad Group: Cookbook
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The product I'm running on Bing is a cookbook from ClickBank. I'm using the keywords and bids suggested by Bing. As you can see, the CTR is high, but I'm paying way too much for the clicks (the product payout is about 35 USD).

Should I just lower the bids or what would be the right thing to do in this situation? Thanks.

Ad Group: Cookbook
View image: Cookbook

Ad Group: Diet Recipes
View image: Diet Recipes
If I am not wrong, you only have just 4 clicks at most to show.

You need at least 50 (most gurus will say 100) clicks to know if it converts or not.
The problem may be lies on the competitive keywords you are targeting.

Eg. Campaign: Cookbook.
Main Keywords: Buy Cookbook - 1.00
Sub Keywords: Buy Chicken Soup Cookbook - 0.67

By going deeper into what audience really wants, eg, Chicken Soup Cookbook in this case, I get more targeted audience and cheaper cpc.

However in rare instance, that keyword may been discovered by your competitors and this will drive cpc up, if not higher than main keyword.

So either you change your landing page for higher conversion, ask for higher commission or settle for another keyword.

Hope this explanation suffice.

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Hello" I want to ask you are you sending traffic on bing to website or squeeze page to make those conversion..
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Hello" I want to ask you are you sending traffic on bing to website or squeeze page to make those conversion..
Squeeze page.

Especially you are competing with "big guys".

You need to leverage every penny out of it if you want to survive and ultimately dominate your niche.
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solarwarrior, you are great in the PPC. Now you called as a PPC guru!

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I am always here to help. Feel free to ask.

Update:
I will follow up on how to hack your quality score to insane number like mine soon.
Watch this space.

Again to summarize on why you need high quality score.
-More Frequency. (Meaning more impressions or clicks)
-Lower CPC.
-Higher Ad Position.
(Again, "gurus" will argue higher cpc is necessary for getting that covet #1 position, I will show you why this is not necessary true all the time)
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Here is the update as promised.



To get a high quality score,

1. You need the keyword in the title.
2. You need the keyword in body.
3. It helps if your url has the keyword too. (Optional)

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Try to stuff keywords in your website content for additional relevancy.

This may not work in Google, but this loophole has not yet been resolved in Bing.
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WOW!! All I can say, SolarWarrior, is that you are amazing!! I'm learning soooo much from this thread about PPC and setting up Ads! I thought I had a basic grasp of these concepts, but after reading Solarwarrior's advice, I have realized how far I was from the truth. I have just added a whole new layer of understanding to my arsenal! I'll be taking your advice and applying it to my campaigns to see how they go.
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WOW!! All I can say, SolarWarrior, is that you are amazing!! I'm learning soooo much from this thread about PPC and setting up Ads! I thought I had a basic grasp of these concepts, but after reading Solarwarrior's advice, I have realized how far I was from the truth. I have just added a whole new layer of understanding to my arsenal! I'll be taking your advice and applying it to my campaigns to see how they go.
I'm actually going to scrap my current first campaign and create a new one based on all the advice here. I'll let you know how I go!!
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solarwarrior, how many keywords you add to ads?
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It depends how many converts.
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I mean, at the very beginning (when you create a company)
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it depends on campaign, i don't have a definite figure.

If your budget allows, I will go as wide as I can.

I will definitely blacklist keywords like "free", "scam" and "support" cause they won't convert most of the time.
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